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today on the show author and ufo

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researcher

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paul blake smith so this gives us

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another clue

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that communications were ongoing during

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the first year

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and this was set up in advance uh there

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were apparently even film cameras there

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recording the event

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uh put together in my book a couple

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sources who

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have said they've seen the film footage

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some of it's in black and white

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and some of it's in color that show the

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extraterrestrials looking a good deal

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like human beings

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walking up to eisenhower and greeting

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him in an airplane hangar

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at edwards air force base

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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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hey guys ryan sprague here and before we

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get to this week's interview

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it's time again to send a very special

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a blue 2nd gen mr2 drifting around a

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summerskies and now let's get to this

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week's

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interview it's a story that has

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circulated

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in and out of the ufo community for

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did former u.s president dwight d

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eisenhower

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have a meeting or several meetings with

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extraterrestrial it's been said

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that eisenhower interrupted his vacation

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in palm springs california

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to make a secret nocturnal trip to

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nearby

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edwards air force base to meet a race of

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aliens

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who wanted to make a deal but what

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exactly was

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that deal did eisenhower go for it

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what happened before during or after

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alleged meeting and of course did any of

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this

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actually happen today we talked to ufo

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researcher and author

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paul blake smith who has heavily

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researched this entire affair

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in a new book titled president

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eisenhower's close

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encounters he walks us through that

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tumultuous weekend

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where not only did ike possibly meet

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with aliens

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but he also had an emergency dental

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appointment

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and in the night in question the

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associated press

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reported that ike died of a heart attack

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retracting the story only moments later

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it was a hell of a weekend for the 34th

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of the united states and one that many

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have included

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as a historic moment in both ufo

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and american history and after hearing

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this interview

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and reading paul's book you just might

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come out on the other side thinking

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huh this might have actually happened

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enjoy

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paul thank you so much for joining me

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today on somewhere in the skies

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it's my pleasure thanks for having me on

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ryan so you know full disclosure

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uh what we're going to be talking about

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today your most recent book president

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eisenhower's close encounters

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i had the immense pleasure in honor of

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contributing

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the forward too so i'm really excited to

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dig into this story man i mean this is

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one of the

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you know those stories in ufo lore that

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never goes away and a lot of people

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think there's nothing to it but

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lo and behold here comes probably

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correct me if i'm wrong the first book

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to cover this in depth am i right

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that's right i would see this uh topic

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discussed

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on uh like ancient aliens and uh

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alien files decoded or mufon hanger one

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they all give it some serious airplay

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for a couple minutes and then

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nothing and i'm watching this over the

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years and thinking where

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is a book on this it should be the most

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amazing

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story in human history if at least uh

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american history

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so i got fed up and tired of waiting and

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i decided i'll write it myself

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so here we have the results it's getting

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good reviews and

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i thank ryan for writing the forward as

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he just mentioned

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oh absolutely man it was my pleasure

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again like this was one of those stories

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you know i heard whispers of it

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throughout the years of being into this

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topic and you always kind of

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laugh or shrug it off like oh yeah yeah

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that's

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scene a dead body or

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you know the aztec ufo crash but

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again like what you were able to uncover

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and dig

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up um documents files testimonies about

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this

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but uh before we kind of get to that i

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have to ask you

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this is your first time being on

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somewhere in the skies

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and this is the origin story question

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you know for

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many of my listeners and viewers who

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might not be too familiar

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with you paul tell us a little about

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yourself if you don't mind what got you

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interested in the ufo topic well i was

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born and raised

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and educated in cape girardeau missouri

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a name that

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should be the most famous place in the

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whole world because we had a ufo crash

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six years before roswell in april of

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1941 and it got hushed up pretty good

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and over the years around the turn of

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i began hearing hearing uh more about

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and wondering well where is a book on

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this subject and i

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being a resident for so many years i'm

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not now

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i decided to explore and investigate and

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put together my own book and i had so

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much material i had a

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sequel that was uh

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moderately successful and i sure wish we

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could get some

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documentary filmmakers into cape

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girardeau and

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and really explore this subject however

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i confess to this day

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i'm not 100 sure of the crash site

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there's no physical remains uh we've got

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a few documented uh

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references to uh these great recoveries

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and wonders that came to us in the

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missouri recovery of 1941

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in uh some material that's been

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unearthed by

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ryan wood and uh i'd like to know more

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about it

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uh even though i've written two books

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and occasionally i get a little uh

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message on my facebook page but not too

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much

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so after that i was digging into ufo

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stories

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to write that and the sequel and

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i kept running into that subject that

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has intrigued me

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since the 1980s eisenhower

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went to an air base and met aliens

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wow that is like the greatest story if

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true

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and i want to know all about that so i

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wrote this book and a few others in

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and uh i hope to have one on

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president nixon and jackie gleason and i

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think there's something of substance

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there but i don't know if i'm going to

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have quite enough material

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to put together a whole book oh that's

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what you think man i mean what you were

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able to

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uncover for this one uh i have no doubt

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if it's out there you're going to be the

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one to find it but um

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well let's let's kind of dive right in

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so for some of our younger listeners

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could you maybe kind of paint a picture

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for us of who

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eisenhower was first as a person and how

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he was perceived by the american people

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you know during his presidency before we

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even get to this uh

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infamous i guess meeting dwight

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eisenhower

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uh became very very famous during world

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ii as the allied commander in europe he

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was fdr's number one man

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holding together all the allied forces

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and the commanding generals and clashing

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personalities

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getting us all on the same page focused

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on

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defeating the nazis and it worked

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brilliantly eisenhower was hailed as a

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national hero

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received a ticker tape parade in his

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honor

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just him in new york city and he would

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attract crowds when he went out in

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public he wasn't quite like

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elvis or the beatles but he did have an

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enormous amount of fame adoration

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respect popularity

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so much so that his friend suggested

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he should leave the truman

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administration and run for president

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that he should run for president and

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violent storm the ship was rocking and

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he couldn't sleep

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i'd like to picture ike in his pajamas

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and robe

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maybe uh with an empty mug in his hand

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because they said they gave him some

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coffee and were standing around the

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bridge of the

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ss roosevelt which was a nuclear weapon

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holding ship and

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suddenly someone looked out the window

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and saw your typical ufo

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a circular craft it was

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silver and shiny and it was pouring rain

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and lightning would light up the place

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and they could all clearly see it

303
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just hovering over the ship and you

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would think most ufo

305
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sightings go on for what 15 seconds less

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than a minute

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the author of the story in the new york

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post said ike and the crew

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sat there and watched this thing for at

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least 10 minutes

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no one panicked i'd like to think maybe

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somebody got out of camera but there

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wasn't any report of any film footage

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taken it was

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this was the graveyard shift in the

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middle of the night

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and the uh the craft showed no

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aggressive moves it just kind of sat

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there in the sky

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despite high winds lightning thunder

321
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heavy rain

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rocking seas the boat was going up and

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down a little and

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uh it was just uh so amazing this man

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said that eisenhower told them all to

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keep it to themselves

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and that he would check into it when he

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went back below decks after the

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encounter was over and he's uh the

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author of the article said we never

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heard about it again

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we keep we kept our mouths shut but he

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was getting older by 1997 he wanted the

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story out so he

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had it printed in the new york newspaper

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and it gives you an indication of well

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what was it that from early 1952 that

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convinced eisenhower

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to go ahead and run for president i

340
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don't know if this

341
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uh ufo sighting was a big factor but you

342
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never know it sounds like something of

343
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great impact doesn't it it does

344
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and i mean it kind of sets the stage for

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you know we start with just a sighting

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and then we move

347
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you know it progresses to close

348
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encounters so let's let's move to that

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paul

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um can you paint us a picture of the

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meeting the first quote unquote meeting

352
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with alleged

353
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extraterrestrials how is the meeting set

354
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up and um

355
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yeah yeah maybe run us through a little

356
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bit of that if you don't mind

357
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all right well dwight eisenhower ran for

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president in the fall of 52 he won in a

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landslide and spent his first year in

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office

361
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wrapping up the korean war he was super

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popular

363
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the economy was doing fairly well and he

364
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decided to go on vacation to georgia to

365
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hunt

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quail and a few days later uh flew out

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to

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uh palm springs california over two

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thousand miles from washington dc

370
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to palm springs just to play golf for a

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few days

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in itself that's a pretty suspicious uh

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cover story and it was a cover story

374
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although eisenhower did play golf

375
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everyone knew he loved golf

376
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he almost always just flew down the

377
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coast to augusta georgia which is right

378
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near the border of south carolina

379
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and he used to go golfing at the augusta

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national

381
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uh golf club which famously hosts the

382
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masters and ike loved it so much down

383
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there

384
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his supporters built him a house on the

385
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course

386
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the years

387
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so it becomes even more strange and

388
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suspicious that he just had to fly all

389
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the way out to

390
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the mojave desert in california not far

391
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from edwards air force base

392
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and and shoot some golf with some old

393
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cronies

394
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he stayed at the um palm springs

395
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uh vacation spot called the smoke tree

396
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ranch and he didn't do too much else

397
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besides uh

398
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hit some golf balls and he signed a few

399
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papers a few uh

400
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laws into uh existence in a small office

401
00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:37,519
they set up for him at the ranch

402
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and then on friday night there was a big

403
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party at the el mirador hotel in palm

404
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springs where the media were staying

405
00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:46,800
and that becomes somewhat significant in

406
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that it got them all distracted

407
00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:50,720
everyone was invited and encouraged to

408
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attend the party

409
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and eisenhower was not there and his top

410
00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,399
aides were not there

411
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no one really seemed to question this at

412
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:01,360
the time but i feel that's the night

413
00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:04,720
eisenhower was driven to an airfield and

414
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flown out to edwards air force base in

415
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the

416
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mojave desert a very remote location

417
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and uh this was only after he was given

418
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the go-ahead

419
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that aliens were uh landed and friendly

420
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and the coast was cleared

421
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to arrive and be greeted safely now if

422
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you

423
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or i were president of the united states

424
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and were golfing

425
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and extraterrestrials landed in five

426
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different spaceships

427
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as they did at edwards uh if we were

428
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president we would be

429
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:37,120
hustled out of there so fast it would

430
00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:38,880
make your head spin right

431
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so you've got to believe this was all

432
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premeditated

433
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and i go into my book on how this could

434
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have been put together

435
00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:49,279
a military scientific program

436
00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:51,680
in which extraterrestrials were

437
00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:52,800
contacted through

438
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high frequency radio waves apparently

439
00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:57,519
using a binary code

440
00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:01,440
and it was apparently someone possibly

441
00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:04,720
familiar to eisenhower someone who might

442
00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:05,839
have appeared

443
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:08,639
in their spaceship in january of 52 off

444
00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:09,519
the

445
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coast of france when eisenhower was

446
00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,199
on the helm now that's just speculation

447
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:17,600
i admit but eisenhower didn't panic

448
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:18,320
there

449
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:20,160
and it kind of goes back to a little

450
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:22,959
store at pieced together from 1948

451
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:26,720
to 1949 involving the aztec

452
00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:30,000
uh new mexico ufo crash i'll skip over

453
00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:31,440
that just for a little bit

454
00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:34,880
and mention congressman henry mcilroy

455
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:37,519
from new hampshire who has a video on

456
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:39,360
youtube you can watch it i believe to

457
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:40,639
this day

458
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,360
from i think 2010 and he reads a little

459
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:46,959
statement he's got and he

460
00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:50,000
says i read the file

461
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:52,560
a secret you know army classified file

462
00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:53,199
that says

463
00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:55,959
the military was in contact with

464
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:58,320
extraterrestrials and in a communication

465
00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,440
program

466
00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:01,759
back and forth going on during the first

467
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:03,279
year of the eisenhower

468
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,079
administration the report concluded that

469
00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:08,400
they felt it was safe for eisenhower to

470
00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:09,280
go

471
00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:12,400
and meet these extraterrestrial beings

472
00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:14,880
in person and the congressman adds it is

473
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:17,439
my understanding that he did go

474
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:19,760
so this gives us another clue that

475
00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:21,839
communications were ongoing

476
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:24,000
during the first year and this was set

477
00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:25,520
up in advance

478
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,600
eisenhower stayed at a friend's house at

479
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the smoke tree ranch

480
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and it was set up with a special uh

481
00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:32,480
bedroom

482
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:34,160
special quarters for the president the

483
00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:36,000
first lady special phone lines were

484
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,960
installed

485
00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:39,039
and uh quarters for the secret service

486
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so this had to have been put together

487
00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:43,520
quite well in advance as a premeditated

488
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:44,400
event

489
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not sudden spur of the moment because as

490
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i've said

491
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if we were president we would be put on

492
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a plane and flown out of the region

493
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so quickly that uh it would be due to

494
00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,039
security concerns because we wouldn't

495
00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:01,200
have known if the aliens were friendly

496
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or if this was a kind of trojan horse if

497
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they landed

498
00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:07,679
but in this case everything seems to

499
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have been set up in advance

500
00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,520
uh there were apparently even film

501
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,440
cameras there recording the event

502
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:15,440
i've put together in my book a couple

503
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:16,559
sources who

504
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:19,120
have said they've seen the film footage

505
00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:20,640
some of it's in black and white

506
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:23,480
and some of it's in color that show the

507
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:25,280
extraterrestrials looking a good deal

508
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:26,720
like human beings

509
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:28,640
walking up to eisenhower and greeting

510
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him in an airplane hangar at edwards air

511
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:32,320
force base

512
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all right yeah so i mean

513
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even paul i mean i know even you could

514
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admit as the author of the book like

515
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,039
this is a lot to take in

516
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,520
you know this entire event but let's

517
00:18:46,590 --> 00:18:44,640
let's maybe

518
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,600
clarify and clear up some of the

519
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:48,880
misconceptions first and foremost you

520
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,360
know

521
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:51,440
in my mind when i first heard this story

522
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:52,559
when i was younger

523
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:55,440
i envisioned the you know the three foot

524
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,000
tall

525
00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:59,039
grays with big black eyes but this this

526
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,679
didn't

527
00:19:03,669 --> 00:19:01,440
seem to be the case and you found

528
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,679
something really interesting that i was

529
00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:05,919
not aware of called the army manual

530
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:08,400
101. so i'd love if you could maybe give

531
00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:10,000
us a little idea of what

532
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:13,120
that is maybe tell us a little about um

533
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:15,840
who else was at this meeting you know we

534
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,720
it wasn't just

535
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:18,720
eisenhower obviously they were the

536
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,160
camera crew there were

537
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:22,880
other i would assume military people and

538
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:23,200
in

539
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,520
aids to the president so yeah could you

540
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:27,520
tell us a little first about army manual

541
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:28,240
101

542
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,880
and then who else was allegedly at this

543
00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:31,679
meeting

544
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:34,240
uh the army manual we are familiar with

545
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:35,760
and many people in the ufo

546
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:38,880
community are familiar with was printed

547
00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:41,280
in april of 54 which means it was

548
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:43,039
probably right in the aftermath

549
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,880
of the eisenhower encounter from

550
00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:46,559
february 19th

551
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:49,039
and it states that communication and

552
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:50,880
contact has been made

553
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:54,240
and it states that uh extraterrestrials

554
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:55,840
come in various uh

555
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:57,440
shapes or forms and it gives a

556
00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,360
description of someone

557
00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:01,919
who i think landed and spoke to

558
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:02,799
eisenhower

559
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,600
they were about five feet tall they had

560
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,280
only a little bit of fuzz on their heads

561
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:08,799
according to the manual

562
00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:10,559
they look a good deal like human beings

563
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:12,559
the skin color is a little different

564
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,120
uh it doesn't say quite how they were

565
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:17,200
dressed we can assume flight suits of

566
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:18,240
some kind

567
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:22,559
and they seem very friendly and uh

568
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:25,840
the description in that booklet is

569
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:29,440
uh what was uh match or what matches

570
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:33,360
uh uh and united states air force test

571
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:34,400
pilot

572
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:38,080
who said i was at the meeting with

573
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:41,200
aliens and eisenhower and he said they

574
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:42,320
looked something like

575
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,440
human beings it's what i call

576
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:48,720
just as this author's opinion cousins of

577
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,960
humanity that they came from perhaps a

578
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,480
planet much like earth

579
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,799
they grew up with much the same body

580
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,679
structure

581
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,200
and their skin color turned a little

582
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:59,360
different because of maybe the harshness

583
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,000
of the sun

584
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,840
on their planet or a little more

585
00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:03,600
difficult to breathe which might have

586
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,039
affected the size of their

587
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:07,360
nostrils or their lungs giving them just

588
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,320
a slightly

589
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,320
misshapen look that's how the the

590
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:11,919
eyewitness the test pilot

591
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:15,280
said in the early 1980s when this story

592
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,000
exploded

593
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:18,559
uh in the pages of the national enquirer

594
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,440
and a few other

595
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:21,280
newspapers picked up the story and ran

596
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:23,919
it he the test pilot says i was brought

597
00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:26,799
in for my expertise in aerodynamics

598
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:29,360
they wanted uh someone who really knew

599
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:30,559
how to

600
00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:33,760
assess any kind of extraterrestrial

601
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,559
craft if it landed and by golly he said

602
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:38,080
three did they were

603
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,240
three were circular shaped and two were

604
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,600
cigar shaped

605
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:44,640
and they landed at the air base and that

606
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,559
eisenhower met them but i don't believe

607
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:48,960
he touched them or shook hands with them

608
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:51,200
and they did speak english which makes

609
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,159
you uh

610
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,559
certainly believe that the aliens had

611
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:56,400
been monitoring

612
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:00,000
uh america or humankind for a long time

613
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,080
and knew our language and it was no

614
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:03,840
problem to speak and it was no problem

615
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:06,480
for them to breathe our atmosphere

616
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,679
so uh the test pilot said i was one of

617
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:11,280
these six other guys who were

618
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:14,080
surrounding eisenhower just to make sure

619
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:17,200
and everyone had died by the early 1980s

620
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,280
and he said i'm the last one alive

621
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:22,000
i want to tell this story before i pass

622
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,640
away

623
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:24,640
so the story doesn't die out and he

624
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:27,280
swore it was true that these aliens

625
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:30,400
were friendly and they were unarmed and

626
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:31,760
they came out and they spoke to

627
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:32,880
eisenhower

628
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:35,679
and they got into the topic of atomic

629
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,640
testing

630
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,880
which really concerned them and i think

631
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,080
that's a pretty valid

632
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:42,000
reason for landing and speaking to the

633
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:43,600
leader of the free world don't you

634
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:46,720
i would say so absolutely uh no do we

635
00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:48,400
have a name for that person paul by

636
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:49,520
chance

637
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:51,919
uh no i was never able to find out the

638
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,080
test pilot's name his whole life and

639
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,840
career would have been ruined if he had

640
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,039
ever given it

641
00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,240
so the author of an article at the time

642
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:02,799
of the man he spoke to kept it an

643
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:04,000
anonymous name

644
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,840
kept him secret and i believe it's

645
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:07,600
secret to this day now i

646
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:10,320
give an opinion in my book over who it

647
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,200
could be

648
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:13,120
but i admit it's still a bit uh

649
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,480
conjecture

650
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,880
the man i have in mind fits the mold

651
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:17,919
perfectly

652
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:20,000
and he just passed away a few years ago

653
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:21,600
i'll leave it that mysterious so you

654
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,000
have to

655
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:24,240
buy the book and find out who i'm

656
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:25,360
talking about

657
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:28,000
but uh this man who came forward around

658
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:28,559
early

659
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,000
to mid 1982 uh

660
00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:34,400
we cannot overlook the fact that uh

661
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,400
general nathan twining the head of the

662
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:38,000
air force at the time

663
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,360
later eisenhower's joint chiefs of staff

664
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:43,600
a very trusted individual

665
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,720
had passed away in march of 82 and i

666
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,320
think he might have been present

667
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:50,159
and might have been the last authority

668
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:51,600
figure uh

669
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:54,720
involved either there or knowing about

670
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,320
it and once he died

671
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:58,960
uh that made perfect sense for the test

672
00:24:01,430 --> 00:24:00,799
pilot to step forward and try to find

673
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:01,440
someone

674
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,520
who would listen to his tail and take it

675
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,960
quite seriously

676
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,360
which i think we can do well let's let's

677
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:09,360
rewind a little bit to uh the the

678
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:10,480
communication

679
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,279
between eisenhower and the the supposed

680
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,520
et's you mentioned atomic testing

681
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,159
uh but is there anything else we can

682
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,679
sort of glean from

683
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,240
what was said during this meeting what

684
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,159
what message were these

685
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,080
ets trying to convey and how did

686
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,159
eisenhower actually respond to it all

687
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:30,720
do we have anything on that paul right

688
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:31,679
he responded

689
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:34,720
unfortunately quite negatively uh the

690
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,520
aliens offered their friendship and an

691
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,600
education program for the people of

692
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,000
earth to wake us up that we are hardly

693
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:43,840
alone in the universe that there are

694
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,600
other beings out there and they are just

695
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,640
one example

696
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,799
eisenhower wasn't too thrilled with that

697
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,760
idea but

698
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,080
things got worse for him when the aliens

699
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:53,679
put on two

700
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:56,720
shows first they showed eisenhower what

701
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,200
their aircraft can do

702
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,440
their five craft apparently lifted up

703
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:03,200
into the air and spun around and darted

704
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,880
around in the atmosphere

705
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,880
according to the test pilot it was a

706
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,120
dazzling display

707
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:12,000
and uh it probably unnerved eisenhower

708
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,880
because

709
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,360
he was a licensed pilot and he knew all

710
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:17,600
about america's air force

711
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:21,039
and our aero technical uh plans for the

712
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:21,840
future and

713
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,960
everything the alien showed us uh on in

714
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:25,919
that meeting

715
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:28,960
outstripped what mankind had and in

716
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,880
particular the u.s air force it was

717
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:31,919
probably

718
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,559
dazzling but unnerving is how i would

719
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,080
call it to see

720
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,159
airships that could fly far faster and

721
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:40,400
maybe stop on a dime in the air and spin

722
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,279
around or

723
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:44,159
uh come down and land with a tripod very

724
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,279
quickly

725
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,279
we didn't have anything like this and

726
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,080
eisenhower being an old army man

727
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,559
was concerned about how this would

728
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,960
impact the people of the united states

729
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,000
if they ever saw

730
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,159
this going on in our skies or if these

731
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:00,799
aliens decided to land somewhere else

732
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:03,600
and say hey we'd like to educate you to

733
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,360
you to our existence

734
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:07,919
and tell you all about us and how people

735
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,320
would react to that probably sheer panic

736
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:11,840
quite frankly

737
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,080
many people would have maybe even

738
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,240
reached for their shotgun

739
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,000
in this country if they had seen such a

740
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,480
thing remembering the old radio show the

741
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,679
war of the worlds

742
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,600
in which people did grab their guns in

743
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,520
panic back in

744
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:29,200
halloween of 1938 a radio program that

745
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:29,600
had

746
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,240
aliens landing and trying to invade

747
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:34,320
grover's mill new jersey it was a very

748
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,520
famous story

749
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,360
and people of that generation remembered

750
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:39,520
it well so that's another factor

751
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,080
eisenhower had to keep in mind

752
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:44,000
that wow we really need to hold this

753
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,000
meeting in secret and then he asked them

754
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,159
not to do this not to show yourselves

755
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,919
too much if you have to be here

756
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:52,000
poking around taking samples looking

757
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,360
over our planet

758
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:56,320
our life forms animal human and and

759
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:57,360
plant form

760
00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:00,080
but then the aliens really did something

761
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:01,200
that

762
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,159
with great discomfort

763
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,279
they made themselves disappear

764
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,279
that is they became invisible to the

765
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:13,679
naked eye according to the test pilot

766
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:16,159
he said eisenhower was most unnerved by

767
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:16,960
this

768
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:19,520
the test pilot said we knew they were

769
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,240
there

770
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,240
but we couldn't see them and then they

771
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:24,559
reappeared apparently uh having moved a

772
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,520
little bit

773
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,200
and if you're going to offer an

774
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,520
education program to the people of earth

775
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:31,440
and you can cloak yourself or make

776
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,200
yourself invisible

777
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:35,520
dematerialize and re-materialize however

778
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,480
they did it

779
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,880
that's got to be awfully scary uh the

780
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:40,559
thought of spies

781
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:43,679
murderers bank robbers rapists thieves

782
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,720
of all kind

783
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:46,840
learning this technique to cloak

784
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,080
yourself

785
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:50,799
uh somehow uh it had to have been the

786
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:53,440
last straw for eisenhower and said and

787
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:54,399
he said

788
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:57,600
to the aliens you're gonna have to go we

789
00:28:03,170 --> 00:27:58,559
can't have this

790
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:03,180
our world is not ready for this

791
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:06,559
[Music]

792
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,520
ufos seem to be invading both our skies

793
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:11,840
and our news outlets like never before

794
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,000
and more people are starting to look up

795
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:15,440
and are wondering who

796
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,799
or what might be out there in 2016

797
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,720
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798
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,880
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799
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,399
been made public before

800
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,559
and now in the second edition of his

801
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,640
book he revisits these events and

802
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,000
introduces brand new

803
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:33,120
ufo cases in somewhere in the skies

804
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,919
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805
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:38,000
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806
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,279
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807
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,720
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808
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,440
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809
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,360
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810
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,360
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811
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,360
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812
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:52,000
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813
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,120
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814
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:55,760
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815
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,240
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816
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,919
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817
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,640
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818
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819
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820
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821
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:15,679
okay so i i can understand that we're

822
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:16,640
not ready

823
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:19,600
and you know eisenhower was a very a

824
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:20,240
very

825
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,520
uh strategic individual i mean he could

826
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:25,200
assess a situation

827
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,799
front and back left and right up and

828
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:29,360
down in you know the blink of an eye

829
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:32,559
so you have to think he probably had the

830
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,720
best for humankind in mind when this

831
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,440
meeting

832
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:37,600
occurred i mean we'll never truly know

833
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,880
right but um

834
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,480
here's something too paul so the lore of

835
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,720
the story you know was that eisenhower

836
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,760
was whisked away

837
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,679
you know for an emergency dental issue

838
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,520
this is kind of what we all thought was

839
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,880
the cover story

840
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,320
you know that doesn't seem to be the

841
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,720
case am i correct that's correct that

842
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,559
story is actually

843
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,799
true in the sense that eisenhower the

844
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,559
very next night was uh

845
00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:00,559
seated at a dinner at the smoke tree

846
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,640
ranch trying to get his mind back to

847
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:03,679
normal you know

848
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:07,360
and he was chewing on a duck leg

849
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:10,240
bit into some buck shot which broke off

850
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,159
an incisor in his teeth

851
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:14,399
and he needed emergency medical

852
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,399
treatment at a dentist's office

853
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,399
i talked to a woman whose best friend

854
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,919
was at that dinner

855
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,640
and she said they apologized up and down

856
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:24,640
to eisenhower and said the boys went out

857
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:26,240
shooting ducks this morning

858
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,080
and that's why the meat's fresh but it

859
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,720
still got you know grape shot shards of

860
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:33,039
metal in it no wonder eisenhower had a

861
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:34,799
dental emergency

862
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,440
so they called up a dentist right away

863
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,600
on saturday night the 20th

864
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:42,000
and said we need you the president has

865
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,240
uh injured a tooth and we need you to

866
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:46,320
examine it and treat him right away

867
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,080
apparently the dentist's reaction was

868
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:49,919
yeah right the president

869
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,799
yeah i'll sure be there and he hung up

870
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:54,320
and like an hour or two

871
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,159
later they were waiting and waiting and

872
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,000
they they called it back said where

873
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,080
are you the president is waiting and

874
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:02,559
they assured him this was no joke so the

875
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,679
dentist dr francis purcell

876
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,600
got in his car and drove very hurriedly

877
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,360
over to his dental office and there was

878
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:12,080
eisenhower and he was treated that night

879
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:15,919
the eisenhower presidential library has

880
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,559
records

881
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,760
for him being treated uh and he went

882
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,519
later to his own dentist to have some

883
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:23,760
more work done on this temporary

884
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:26,720
crown that was put in that night and so

885
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,440
that just simply is a true story

886
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:32,559
uh that gets a little conflated with the

887
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,279
fact that

888
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,120
eisenhower did go out to edwards air

889
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:37,039
force base but it was the night before

890
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,240
friday the 19th it's also amusing and a

891
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:42,240
sad reflection on the state of our

892
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:45,679
uh media that the press found out that

893
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,679
eisenhower rushed out of his smoke tree

894
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:49,760
ranch saturday night and the rumor was

895
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,559
he needed

896
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,640
emergency medical treatment well the

897
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:53,919
reporters went nuts

898
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,799
and decided eisenhower had died and one

899
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,720
even filed a report

900
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:01,440
with uh like the associated press or upi

901
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,320
forget which

902
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:04,240
and said eisenhower died tonight and

903
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,360
then he had to

904
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:07,919
uh retract that when eisenhower press

905
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,480
statement

906
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,559
or press spokesman came in and gave a

907
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,399
statement and said eisenhower

908
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:14,159
was chewing on a chicken leg which is

909
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:15,840
not true it was a duck leg

910
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,720
and uh hurt his tooth and he'll be back

911
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:20,240
in church sunday morning which he

912
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:21,679
certainly was

913
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:24,559
so uh it just goes to show you how the

914
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,200
media

915
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,440
sitting around board could snowball a

916
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:28,960
bunch of gossip into

917
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,840
a president died probably a case of

918
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,679
franklin roosevelt died while on

919
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,559
vacation

920
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,519
in warm springs georgia maybe eisenhower

921
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,519
has died on vacation in

922
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,320
palm springs california but uh the whole

923
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,640
thing was a wacky misunderstanding

924
00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:46,559
uh it really had nothing to do with the

925
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:47,679
alien uh

926
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,320
landing but uh it makes for an

927
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,519
entertaining uh

928
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:54,240
but uh again kind of sad reflection on

929
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,799
the uh

930
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,480
the state of the media to get that

931
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:58,159
carried away without any facts

932
00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,640
any proof at all you know if anything i

933
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,000
don't think the media has gotten any

934
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:04,000
better paul but uh that's a story for

935
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:05,600
another time but uh

936
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:08,559
wow okay so let's say let's say this is

937
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:08,960
true

938
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:11,600
this meeting occurred what a weekend for

939
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,399
this guy

940
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,880
you know i mean meeting with aliens and

941
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,320
then

942
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,679
having to go for emergency dental uh

943
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:21,760
appointment and everything and then to

944
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,720
beat a church on sunday that is

945
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:27,440
a sweeping weekend it had to be a real

946
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,480
come down but

947
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,799
eisenhower had a printed schedule and if

948
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,480
he didn't show up

949
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:35,440
it's going to start looking really weird

950
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,840
and

951
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:37,760
the press will really go nuts so he

952
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:40,399
showed up at church he showed up at golf

953
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,679
on monday there was a big dinner

954
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,600
sunday night he showed up for that a

955
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,720
bunch of

956
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:48,559
locals and a few celebrities were there

957
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,799
at the smoke tree ranch sunday night

958
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:52,960
but we need to focus on that date the

959
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:53,919
19th of

960
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:56,399
february as it comes in a little handy

961
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:57,279
with some other

962
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,760
us presidents yeah yeah we will get

963
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,120
there for sure um

964
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,039
well i got to ask you this fall and i'm

965
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:05,120
sure you've been asked this before

966
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:08,480
but uh why do you think if aliens were

967
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,520
to come here

968
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:12,800
and to meet with um a a

969
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:14,480
world leader i guess the leader of the

970
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:16,720
free world as we call them in the united

971
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:17,359
states

972
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:20,079
why here why us why us americans do you

973
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:21,440
think these meetings

974
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,839
were occurring with other world leaders

975
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,040
or diplomats

976
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:27,520
and we were just one stop on this like

977
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,320
diplomacy tour of the universe and the

978
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:32,639
in the planet like why was it eisenhower

979
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:33,679
in us

980
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,560
that's a very very good question uh it's

981
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,639
quite possible the aliens did try to

982
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:40,879
meet with other nuclear powers like

983
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,839
russia or china or england and a quick

984
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:45,200
side story that didn't

985
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:48,399
uh make my book but i found out

986
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:52,000
about a month ago that prince philip in

987
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:53,760
england has a very great private

988
00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:56,240
interest in ufos and he collects books

989
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,079
so that he had apparently learned

990
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:02,720
of a ufo sighting on the grounds of lord

991
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,480
mountbatten's estate in 1955

992
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,560
uh very close to the eisenhower

993
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,680
encounter

994
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,599
and some say eisenhower had a second

995
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:13,599
encounter in february 55

996
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,040
and this british one on the the

997
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:19,280
rural out in the countryside lord

998
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,160
mountbatten

999
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,200
uh mansion they believed the man's story

1000
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,280
that he said he saw this spacecraft and

1001
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:26,640
he went out in the snow to look for

1002
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,760
prince and such

1003
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,520
so that gives you an example of maybe

1004
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:31,680
aliens did come down at the other

1005
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:34,320
nuclear superpowers but what they ask

1006
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,440
eisenhower

1007
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,599
at edwards air force base is could you

1008
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:38,640
please stop

1009
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:41,359
all these crazy reckless atomic testing

1010
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:42,400
that you're doing

1011
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,520
we were like kids playing with

1012
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:47,440
matches frankly in those days we were

1013
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,680
setting off nuclear bombs in

1014
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:52,320
little experiments in the atmosphere uh

1015
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:53,119
on the land

1016
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:55,760
in the ground and underwater and it was

1017
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:57,839
creating tremendous radiation

1018
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,320
and pollution things leaking into outer

1019
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,240
space maybe

1020
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,800
genuinely affecting other worldly

1021
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:06,800
creatures and they finally decided to

1022
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:07,440
land

1023
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,640
to go for it and to speak to someone

1024
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,640
face to face and there was no one better

1025
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,760
to do this

1026
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,440
than as you say the leader of the free

1027
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,119
world the most popular man

1028
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:19,359
in america if not the world president

1029
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,320
eisenhower

1030
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:22,240
who was in charge of the atomic testing

1031
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:23,760
they asked him to stop

1032
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,920
and to get rid of your atomic weapons

1033
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:27,839
and he apparently said

1034
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,880
i'm not going to disarm unilaterally

1035
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,720
you know the other nations of the world

1036
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:33,920
will have to do so

1037
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,720
also so again it makes you really wonder

1038
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,560
did the aliens go

1039
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:41,599
find a rural remote spot in russia and

1040
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:42,400
china

1041
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:45,200
and also speak to their leaders i uh

1042
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,800
don't have any information

1043
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,359
those were closed secret societies to

1044
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,760
america back then that was the cold war

1045
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:54,000
and uh to this day uh we're still trying

1046
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:54,960
to uh

1047
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,320
get uh russia to unleash its files

1048
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:00,480
and find out what you know what the kgb

1049
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,520
knew uh

1050
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:03,599
there was a brief flurry of opening such

1051
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:04,720
matters uh

1052
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:08,720
after the soviet union fell around 1990

1053
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,599
91

1054
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:11,839
and then they closed them all up and boy

1055
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:13,520
there are plenty of juicy secrets there

1056
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,079
i bet

1057
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,400
i can only imagine and hey you know i

1058
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,760
mean i understand

1059
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,400
if if if what you're saying is true and

1060
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,800
this is what eisenhower how he responded

1061
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:23,760
to them

1062
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,400
the the supposed et's saying you know

1063
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,920
get rid of your nuclear arms

1064
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:30,240
i mean we have we have theories that

1065
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:31,680
maybe russia had something to do with

1066
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,640
the roswell crash or this or that case

1067
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,440
and um they wanted to destabilize the

1068
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,440
united states in such a way

1069
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,560
and you have to wonder maybe eisenhower

1070
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:44,640
maybe there were theories that uh this

1071
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:45,599
whole et

1072
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,640
meeting was was disguised and it came

1073
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,560
from russia and they wanted us to get

1074
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,760
rid of our nukes

1075
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,599
and they build up their uh like i mean i

1076
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:55,200
know i'm getting really out there paul

1077
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,520
but

1078
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:57,920
i mean at this point it's anyone's guess

1079
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,640
as to what

1080
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,240
there are so many unknowns how was

1081
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,480
eisenhower to know what was going on in

1082
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:04,640
other countries or even another part of

1083
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,200
america

1084
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,839
exactly uh it was another factor of him

1085
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,680
nervously saying could you not show

1086
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:11,599
yourselves around here we're not ready

1087
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,640
for you yet

1088
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,960
and react negatively uh i include in my

1089
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:16,160
book also

1090
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,160
another factor another story that uh

1091
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,800
uh a ufo researcher came up with i don't

1092
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,200
know if it's valid but he said he heard

1093
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:28,240
the aliens offered uh clean energy

1094
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,359
technology

1095
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,440
just gonna hand it over and the the

1096
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:33,280
sound of that is very exciting isn't it

1097
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,560
we could get rid of our

1098
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:37,520
coal and fuel fossil fuel burning uh

1099
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,480
engines

1100
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,800
plants and factories and cars and trucks

1101
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,720
but eisenhower turned that down as well

1102
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,119
when you think about it a brand new

1103
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:46,880
cutting edge technology

1104
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,520
it would wreck the auto industry maybe

1105
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,640
the steel industry

1106
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:53,280
wrecked the economy uh it would turn

1107
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,800
everything upside down when you would

1108
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,040
have to explain where we got it from

1109
00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:00,400
and how it works so uh if that story is

1110
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:01,040
true

1111
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,560
you kind of want to bang your head on a

1112
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,040
desk somewhere because we polluted the

1113
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:07,920
planet pretty badly in the last 60 years

1114
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,720
and we could have uh obviated all of

1115
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:12,960
that by accepting the alien offer

1116
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,480
if that tale is uh valid but it makes

1117
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:17,920
you wonder

1118
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,240
were these like little enticements

1119
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:22,000
thrown out there like a banana on the

1120
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,200
end of a stick

1121
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:26,160
for eisenhower to go for and again we

1122
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,680
must emphasize

1123
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:29,599
eisenhower was an old military

1124
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,480
strategist he saw world war ii firsthand

1125
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,200
he even toured the auschwitz death camps

1126
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:37,520
and he saw what human beings can do to

1127
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:38,800
each other

1128
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,680
and how powerful people get carried away

1129
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:43,599
and so he had to been suspicious

1130
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,560
of the aliens in the fact that what if

1131
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:48,400
they were a trojan horse and there were

1132
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:49,680
invaders coming

1133
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,720
after this initial friendly group he as

1134
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,880
a military man he had to be suspicious

1135
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,880
and honest defensive

1136
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,359
and uh not just be a gullible fool and

1137
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:00,880
accept everything he's told

1138
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:03,520
yeah i mean you know maybe this was just

1139
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:04,480
one

1140
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,119
uh intelligence extraterrestrial

1141
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:08,480
intelligence that doesn't mean there's

1142
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,880
not

1143
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,960
malevolent ones out there somewhere too

1144
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,400
that's right it'd be like opening a

1145
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,640
pandora's box if you let these guys in

1146
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:18,000
what about 10 12 30 others and some of

1147
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,319
them

1148
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,640
not very friendly when they see the

1149
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,720
floodgates open they think hey everybody

1150
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,160
come on down

1151
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:27,280
well you did mention a second meeting

1152
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,839
this is

1153
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,160
really interesting to me um can you tell

1154
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:32,079
us a little about this supposed meeting

1155
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,400
when

1156
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,040
and where and uh what you found about

1157
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,960
found out about this holloman air force

1158
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:38,800
base we know this place well

1159
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,760
from a different supposed landing as

1160
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:43,839
well so yeah what do you got on this one

1161
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,079
this stems from the great research of

1162
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,240
the late great arthur campbell

1163
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,720
who passed away within the last year or

1164
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,880
two i didn't get a chance to talk to him

1165
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:55,200
but he put almost everything he knew

1166
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,720
on on the internet online and he found

1167
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,359
some witnesses that say eisenhower uh

1168
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:04,000
went to georgia for a little vacation

1169
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,000
and then snuck away to holloman air

1170
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,079
force base on

1171
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,800
what was uh air force one now does that

1172
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,319
sound like a familiar

1173
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,800
method of operation there was even a

1174
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,560
party for the media

1175
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:19,040
at the hotel in georgia to distract them

1176
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:20,400
while eisenhower

1177
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,760
sneaked away and uh it's like they

1178
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:26,079
played the palm springs trick all over

1179
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,119
again the media fell

1180
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,359
for it again distracted with free food

1181
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,079
and drink and entertainment at the hotel

1182
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,040
so eisenhower got an overnight trip um i

1183
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:37,680
think he arrived actually by afternoon

1184
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,960
and came back uh late uh overnight and

1185
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,040
snuck back to his estate in georgia in

1186
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,960
february of 55.

1187
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,960
according to art campbell's research

1188
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:49,359
eisenhower's plane was out on the runway

1189
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,400
at holloman

1190
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,640
and two extraterrestrial looking

1191
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:54,640
spaceships came down out of the sky

1192
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,200
circular your typical silver metal

1193
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,280
flying saucers

1194
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:01,040
one hovered in the air and remained

1195
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,880
there and the other landed and

1196
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,319
eisenhower was seen

1197
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:07,359
supposedly walking out of his airplane

1198
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,640
and over to it and stepped inside and

1199
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:12,880
uh there would have been a real reason

1200
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,920
for this meeting if the two had come to

1201
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:18,160
a formal agreement a contract or a

1202
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:20,000
treaty as we've heard many times and

1203
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,040
eisenhower

1204
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:23,200
formed a signed agreement and he would

1205
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,160
have to have

1206
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,119
put it into print and uh possibly the

1207
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,240
aliens would have to have agreed to what

1208
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,000
the wording was and how they would go

1209
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,400
about maybe secretly landing on

1210
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,560
planet earth if not out in the nevada

1211
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,040
desert according to one document

1212
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,079
and that they could continue in private

1213
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:45,280
to land and inspect our air our sea

1214
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:48,480
our land our animals and the human race

1215
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,440
and we in return would get technology

1216
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:53,119
possibly or

1217
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:56,000
information to help us uh that's in my

1218
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,560
book i

1219
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,040
explain a little more at length but this

1220
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:01,280
would explain why eisenhower needed a

1221
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,400
second meeting

1222
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:04,240
and he pulled it off apparently art

1223
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,920
campbell said there were witnesses that

1224
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:06,560
said

1225
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:09,280
eisenhower went into an air base a small

1226
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,240
theater there

1227
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:11,920
they gathered all the personnel and

1228
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,599
swore them to secrecy

1229
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:16,000
said we cannot let this uh story out

1230
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:17,440
you're gonna have to keep your mouth

1231
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:20,319
shut just like he swore them to secrecy

1232
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,960
at

1233
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,280
edwards air force base the year before

1234
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:25,040
then he hopped on a plane and flew back

1235
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:26,000
to georgia for

1236
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,280
this quail hunting vacation and no one

1237
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:31,440
was the wiser until art campbell dug

1238
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:32,560
into this

1239
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:35,680
in the 1980s and 90s and so i tipped my

1240
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,319
cap

1241
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,480
to this very fine gentleman who was like

1242
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,160
me he was from missouri

1243
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:43,359
there you go yeah it's so so fascinating

1244
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:43,920
paul i mean

1245
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:47,359
all of this and um i guess i kind of

1246
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,400
wrapping up

1247
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:50,000
uh what's in the book because we don't

1248
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,319
want to give away too much obviously

1249
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,280
um but your last chapter you cover

1250
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:57,680
eisenhower after his presidency and his

1251
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,720
meetings

1252
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,960
with a lot of interesting people that we

1253
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,240
would come to know

1254
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,839
pretty darn well here in the united

1255
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,839
states and beyond so would you mind

1256
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,240
teasing us a little bit about uh these

1257
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:10,640
meetings that eisenhower had after his

1258
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,599
presidency and

1259
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:13,680
what it could all mean in terms of you

1260
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,040
know this this meeting

1261
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:17,680
in what we now know is the ufo cover-up

1262
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:18,400
i guess

1263
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,040
when i was researching uh whatever

1264
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:23,359
agreement eisenhower reached with aliens

1265
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,000
i would

1266
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,640
uh press this in to type it into the

1267
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:27,839
search engine

1268
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:30,960
on my computer and one came back 10-year

1269
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,920
agreement and i'm thinking why 10-year

1270
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,960
agreement

1271
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:37,280
who's who came up with this and i

1272
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,560
couldn't find any more

1273
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,400
and it became very frustrating but i

1274
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:42,640
found out the president of the united

1275
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,119
states

1276
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,480
lyndon b johnson flew from washington dc

1277
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,880
all the way out to palm springs he met

1278
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,400
with eisenhower

1279
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,040
there was a second air force one on the

1280
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,800
tarmac at the airport

1281
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,640
some monkey business might well have

1282
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:57,839
been going on

1283
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,760
they met on february 20th one day after

1284
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,400
uh the exact 10-year anniversary in case

1285
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,920
there was an agreement that needed

1286
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:06,880
updating

1287
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,560
or you know signing on to by this

1288
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:11,839
president

1289
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,839
it turns out that there were a few gaps

1290
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,839
in the schedule and eisenhower did meet

1291
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,720
with the

1292
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:19,119
lbj a couple of times they could have

1293
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,240
meant more

1294
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:22,880
i don't know quite what's going on but

1295
00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:23,280
uh

1296
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:29,359
there was extraterrestrial material at a

1297
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:32,160
local air base that jfk flew out

1298
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,400
to see he flew out in march of 1962

1299
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,640
and met with eisenhower and posed for

1300
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,079
pictures with ike

1301
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:43,040
at his palm springs home and then he had

1302
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,480
gaps in his schedule and

1303
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,480
i tried to piece together what could

1304
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:47,839
have happened uh

1305
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,640
jfk ufo rumors are a little sketchy i'll

1306
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,680
admit

1307
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,319
and uh there's other presidents that

1308
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:57,200
flew into palm springs

1309
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:01,040
future presidents like reagan elder bush

1310
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,240
and ford and that back

1311
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,720
in the later 60s on the exact

1312
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:07,839
anniversary

1313
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,359
of the 15th year of the eisenhower

1314
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:13,680
encounter with aliens lbj flew back to

1315
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,000
palm

1316
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,560
springs and met with eisenhower you

1317
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:17,760
almost can't make this stuff

1318
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:20,880
up february 19th 1968

1319
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,240
and then february 19th is a date for the

1320
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:26,480
richard nixon jackie gleason encounter

1321
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,000
which was at an air force

1322
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,720
base with armed security guards around

1323
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:32,079
and they saw something

1324
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,599
otherworldly uh in a laboratory there

1325
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,680
so you know you have to ask yourself

1326
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:40,160
what in the world is going on here in

1327
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,040
private

1328
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,280
that they can't tell us i think we're

1329
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,280
able to piece together something that

1330
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:47,520
at least these presidents back in the

1331
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,400
day

1332
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:50,480
knew we were being visited and that

1333
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,960
there was an agreement that they

1334
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,040
kept hushed up and everything's been

1335
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,720
fine we haven't been invaded or

1336
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:58,319
assaulted in any way

1337
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,720
so you know why upset the apple cart

1338
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,640
keep the status quo going

1339
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:05,200
i don't know too much about more recent

1340
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,560
presidents

1341
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,119
and what they know but you see them on

1342
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:10,960
jimmy kimmel live

1343
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:14,079
or on stephen colbert and they uh these

1344
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,440
hosts will ask them

1345
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,280
you know are we alone are we being

1346
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:19,119
visited or not and they give a flip and

1347
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,000
answer

1348
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,160
and laugh and chuckle or just say oh

1349
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,160
it's a matter of national security but i

1350
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,599
think that's your answer

1351
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,839
i mean if the answer was absolutely not

1352
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,880
they'd say so

1353
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:30,480
right but they don't want to tell you

1354
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,079
the truth so they just kind of

1355
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:34,720
skirt around it and uh it's very

1356
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:36,839
frustrating but maybe someday a former

1357
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,760
president will tell us or maybe even one

1358
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:40,800
in office

1359
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:43,280
i mean who knows and i do wonder you

1360
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:43,920
know

1361
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,280
do these presidents do they want to be

1362
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,839
the disclosure president you know you

1363
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,119
really have to wonder what

1364
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,880
kind of baggage would come with that and

1365
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,040
that will be your legacy

1366
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,880
you know so i have to wonder if that's

1367
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,319
why the suppression

1368
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:00,160
continues like you said to keep that

1369
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:01,440
status quo

1370
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:04,000
uh you are quite correct would it upset

1371
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,160
the apple cart and damaged the stock

1372
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,000
market and the economy and put people

1373
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,839
out of work to this day

1374
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,520
of course it's not too good right now

1375
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,359
anyway so that's another factor

1376
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,760
in uh keeping this information bottled

1377
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:17,760
up the economy is not strong if people

1378
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,400
started

1379
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:20,319
quitting their jobs or quitting school

1380
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,680
and decided to

1381
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,240
study extraterrestrials or even worship

1382
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:26,559
them that was something eisenhower was

1383
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:29,040
apparently worried about people don't

1384
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,599
seem to realize he was a very devoutly

1385
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,520
christian gentleman he had himself

1386
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,680
baptized in his first month or so

1387
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,440
in the white house he's the only

1388
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:39,119
american president to have himself

1389
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,240
baptized

1390
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,960
he took in god we trust so seriously he

1391
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,160
made sure it was on

1392
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,559
all of our currency he was a

1393
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,079
church-going christian

1394
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,480
and he was not open to the idea that

1395
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:52,559
maybe people would start worshiping the

1396
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,280
aliens

1397
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,520
and forget about their religious faith

1398
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,280
which takes us back to world war

1399
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:59,280
ii and that incident with winston

1400
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:00,720
churchill doesn't it

1401
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:04,400
yeah exactly exactly yep you do have to

1402
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,200
wonder

1403
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,160
these uh you know kind of um

1404
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,559
hypothesizing of what would change

1405
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,280
if all of this were true and the the

1406
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:15,359
possibilities are literally endless so

1407
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,160
um

1408
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,720
you know i remember when i first heard

1409
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:20,720
you were coming out with this book paul

1410
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:23,359
i i didn't think there was much to any

1411
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:23,920
of this

1412
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,319
as i'm sure some of my listeners and

1413
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,359
viewers

1414
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:29,760
felt as well but i mean after reading

1415
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,480
what you brought

1416
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,640
forth and and the documents you

1417
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:34,319
uncovered we didn't even really go into

1418
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:35,520
those but we'll leave that for the

1419
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,240
reader

1420
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,800
and uh and whatnot i have to ask you on

1421
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,920
a personal

1422
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:42,000
level what do you think do you

1423
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,040
personally

1424
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:45,440
buy into this after i did research i

1425
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,880
think it really did happen

1426
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,640
i've heard from some various people

1427
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:51,119
who've read my book and said paul you

1428
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,720
just blew my mind

1429
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:54,559
i was skeptical at first and you

1430
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,559
convinced me i can put together

1431
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,000
what i feel is a pretty strong

1432
00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:00,400
circumstantial evidence case

1433
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,559
and let the reader decide i try to cram

1434
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,800
in as much information as i could find

1435
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,400
to really research this

1436
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,240
and not put a book full of loose

1437
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:10,240
conspiracy theories without sources

1438
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,800
together

1439
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,040
or some junk you know that you end up

1440
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,960
regretting spending your money for

1441
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,359
i've gotten a lot of good reviews and

1442
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:19,040
people have been very complementary and

1443
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,480
i'm very appreciative

1444
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,359
and i think that um if you uh read it

1445
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:25,119
open-mindedly and piece it

1446
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,520
together as i did i go along like it's a

1447
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,359
puzzle let's piece it together

1448
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:32,000
and come to the conclusion that yeah i

1449
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,000
think eisenhower did meet these friendly

1450
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:35,680
human type beings and

1451
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,599
it went peacefully it had to be kept it

1452
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,599
covered up i'm hopeful that

1453
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:42,240
you know there's this new legislation

1454
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,119
today

1455
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:45,839
that congress has like 180 days of the

1456
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:47,760
the intelligence services to open up

1457
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:48,880
those files

1458
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:51,920
and this is a very mind-boggling

1459
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:54,880
possibility that maybe some older files

1460
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:58,880
like cape girardeau 1941 roswell 47

1461
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,280
or the eisenhower encounters could be

1462
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,599
opened up first and not to

1463
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:05,520
blow people away with like what's going

1464
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,800
on today

1465
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,720
if we're being threatened by someone up

1466
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,880
in space these are more harmless older

1467
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:11,839
stories

1468
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:14,240
uh some of them involving the little

1469
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:15,359
greys as we

1470
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:18,400
sometimes refer to them as i believe

1471
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,280
colonel philip corso who said that it

1472
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:23,599
was his understanding that the grey

1473
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,480
beings

1474
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,880
are like uh little bio-robots that they

1475
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:28,319
were created

1476
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:31,200
probably by human-type aliens or others

1477
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:31,520
as

1478
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:35,040
uh almost like servants or slaves

1479
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:37,119
they were compared in one document to

1480
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,480
hunting dogs

1481
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,800
that that would go out in little

1482
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,559
spaceships and do what they're told and

1483
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,240
that's why they don't seem to have any

1484
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:45,359
feelings

1485
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:48,880
any sympathy for any cattle they may

1486
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,800
mutilate or human they may abduct and

1487
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,760
put back

1488
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,920
that they're not really human or

1489
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,000
humanoids they were created

1490
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:58,000
almost like in a factory and that's why

1491
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:59,280
when they crash

1492
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,079
as in cape girardeau or roswell that

1493
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,319
aliens are not too particularly upset

1494
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:05,680
that's like well we'll go back to the

1495
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,040
factory and get some more

1496
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:08,880
they never went back for their dead did

1497
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,440
they that's such a good point they uh

1498
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:13,119
they're definitely uh

1499
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,240
expendable i guess at that point um well

1500
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:19,359
okay so zooming out you know you did

1501
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:19,920
mention

1502
00:52:24,349 --> 00:52:23,040
this uap task force that we have coming

1503
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:24,359
at us now in

1504
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:28,079
2021 what do you hope people will take

1505
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:29,359
away from

1506
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:32,559
your book most and how can they take

1507
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:34,000
what they learned from your book and

1508
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:35,440
infuse it into this

1509
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:38,720
world of ufos today i think it's much

1510
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,680
like what the aliens wanted in 1954 to

1511
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:43,359
educate humanity that

1512
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:46,000
we are not alone we are being visited by

1513
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,359
other species

1514
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,440
other races some of them friendly maybe

1515
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,280
some of them a little cold-blooded

1516
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,760
that uh this one human-type race knows

1517
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,880
what's going on here

1518
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:56,559
and speak english and they care about

1519
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:58,839
our environment even if we

1520
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:01,760
recklessly uh destroy it

1521
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:04,800
they want us to live in peace and live

1522
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:07,440
in harmony as corny as that may sound

1523
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,920
and it probably you would assume they're

1524
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:11,760
still buzzing around today

1525
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:14,319
and observing us hoping we don't tear

1526
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,599
ourselves apart and

1527
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,559
have a better future uh it's something

1528
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,440
that

1529
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:21,280
some people have may not given much

1530
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:22,559
thought to

1531
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:25,119
before and maybe this book will help

1532
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:25,920
them

1533
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,559
uh as the aliens wanted to help open our

1534
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,319
minds to our presence

1535
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,400
unfortunately we have some people today

1536
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,880
who think the earth is flat

1537
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,359
and uh all those globes and pictures of

1538
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:39,839
the earth as a round planet are somehow

1539
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,480
false

1540
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:42,240
and that gives you an indication we need

1541
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,800
a lot of education going on don't we

1542
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:46,880
we do we need a crash course more now

1543
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,839
than ever

1544
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,760
absolutely brother well i mean this book

1545
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:52,079
was definitely a crash course for me and

1546
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:53,520
again i'm going to say it i would not

1547
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:54,880
have written the forward

1548
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:57,440
if i did not believe in this journey

1549
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:58,720
that you were taking and what you

1550
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,000
brought forward so

1551
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,319
i hope that's an indication to my my

1552
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:04,160
listeners that this book is definitely

1553
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,280
worth your time

1554
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,200
again i was one of those people who

1555
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:08,960
scoffed at it when i first heard about

1556
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:09,440
it

1557
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,599
and now i'm coming out on the other side

1558
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:13,200
being like

1559
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:16,319
i i think this happened so man if that's

1560
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:16,800
even

1561
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:19,520
any indication i hope people will check

1562
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,160
it out

1563
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,160
thank you for allowing me to be a small

1564
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:24,160
part of this journey you're taking with

1565
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:26,800
this story paul but um of course before

1566
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:27,680
we go

1567
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,440
where can we find the book and

1568
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:31,440
everything you are up to my friend

1569
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:33,480
uh the book can be found of course on

1570
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,720
amazon.com

1571
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,839
and you can go to also to

1572
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:38,640
foundationsbooks.net

1573
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,119
and if you're looking for the revised

1574
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:43,680
updated 2020 version of my

1575
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:46,720
mo 41 book on the cape charter ufo crash

1576
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:49,119
you can go to argusbooks.com where

1577
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:50,720
shipping is free or also

1578
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:53,839
to amazon.com uh

1579
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:56,079
it comes in all kinds of e-form and

1580
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:57,520
kindle and such

1581
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,559
and uh i'm just so pleased with the

1582
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,480
the response i've heard from a couple of

1583
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,319
television producers

1584
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,319
and so we may see some of this in the

1585
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,640
future on the small screen

1586
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,240
i'd like to see it on the big screen

1587
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,160
it's such an awesome story isn't it

1588
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:14,000
the president of the united states

1589
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:15,839
meeting face to face with aliens and

1590
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,920
seeing their craft buzz around

1591
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,680
it has such a disappointing end though

1592
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:21,200
doesn't it he has to tell him to get

1593
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:21,760
long

1594
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:24,640
get lost hey no one ever said these

1595
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,960
things all have happy endies man but hey

1596
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,720
i think this story is still being

1597
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,880
written and spielberg

1598
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,440
is still around man so maybe we'll get

1599
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:35,760
him to take a crack at it but no

1600
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:38,000
i commend you i congratulate you on the

1601
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,200
release of the book man

1602
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:41,040
and i have to thank you for coming on

1603
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:42,960
somewhere in the skies well thank you so

1604
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,559
much for writing the forward and having

1605
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,640
me on as your guest i hope we get a

1606
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,960
a good response and maybe i can produce

1607
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:49,760
a sequel

1608
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:52,240
the nixon encounter we'll see to be

1609
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:59,670
that's it for this week's episode if you

1610
00:56:02,069 --> 00:56:01,280
haven't already please take a few

1611
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:02,079
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1612
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,319
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1613
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:06,720
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1629
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1631
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,240
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1632
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,720
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1633
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,720
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1634
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:51,920
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1635
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,960
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1636
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,240
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1637
00:57:01,870 --> 00:56:58,799
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1638
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,880
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1639
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,079
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1640
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:06,720
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00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:10,640
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1642
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:13,200
to you for listening i'll see you here

1643
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,000
next week

1644
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:15,920
and remember keep your feet on the

1645
00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:18,559
ground but never stop searching

1646
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:27,540
somewhere in the skies

1647
00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:39,600
[Music]

1648
00:58:02,789 --> 00:57:40,710
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